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  BigD

  8 months ago

  Since your an expert on this tax plan, tell me exactly what my benefit is as far as dollars are concerned(i'd like to see where the money is coming for my next vacation). Then after that please tell me how a potential head of the executive branch has legislative powers all of a sudden to push this plan through. Isn't this election about voting for a figure head and if his stamp says yes or no when various legislation crosses his desk. If they want to debate details of proposed legislation let them run for senate again not the president.
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  Probstisms

  8 months ago

  Big D, it sounds like you're fed up with all of the nonsense that is
  going on with the campaign right now, and I don't blame you. There is
  a lot of unnecessary chatter that is drowning out the real issues and
  challenges our country faces now and in the future.
  
  As far as the tax plan, you're one of the smartest guys I know so I
  know you know that I cannot tell you how Obama's plan will personally
  benefit you. Go to http://taxcut.barackobama.com/ and enter your
  information to see an estimate for what Obama's plan will do for you.
  
  Honestly, all of this talk about changes to the tax code from either
  side is just a high level draft of what the final changes will look
  like. Like you mentioned in your comment, the Congress will make the
  final decisions, and hopefully everyone will be able to come together
  to make the best choices for our country.
  
  Every President has an agenda and a vision about where he would like
  to take the country. Let's call it a road map. That leader must find
  a way to work with the other branches of government to navigate that
  map and bring us to our destination. That's why candidates lay out
  their various plans during elections. That's the only way to know how
  the candidate thinks. For me and my family, for many reasons, I very
  much prefer the destination Obama has described. I like the way that
  road map looks.
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  BigD

  8 months ago

  Timmy,
  
  This destination and this road map you speak off reminds me very much of a movie I've seen many times. I believe it was about a Chicago family traveling to an Utopian land called Obamaland. Of course there were many setbacks along the way(some even hilarious). But when this family finally arrived at Obamaland the movie ended with Chevy Chase shooting John Candy in the ass. Now why was this? Because Obamaland can never exist, there just isn't the money to fulfill the promises of this amusement park. Now my memory isn't that good and I might have confused parts of this great movie with something else, but in the end it's all the same. Timmy please don't shoot John Candy in the ass when you experience the big let down of Obamaland. Just warning you in advance!
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  Probstisms

  8 months ago

  Great comment, Big D! I needed a laugh after staring at interface
  mapping documents all day. Vacation was such a fantastic movie.
  
  All I can say is that I would rather have hoped and been disappointed
  than to never have hoped at all. John McCain just doesn't give me any
  reason to feel hopeful about the future under his leadership. He
  hasn't offered anything new, and the status quo is most certainly
  broken. If Obama is privileged enough to win the election on Tuesday,
  I think he will surprise all of his doubters and will help change our
  country and the world for the better. I'm not saying he can do it
  alone, but I think he has the leadership qualities to take us in the
  right direction.
  
  Plus, if you remember, Vacation had a very happy ending, and who
  doesn't want one of those?
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  BigD

  8 months ago

  I love Happy Endings but that is a different story. Here's a new story. Barack is not a socialist. I took your advise and checked out this tax plan. The dude wants to give me $1300. Then I started playing with the other variables most importantly dependents, and what did I find you ask. Well assuming you and I make the same amount of money. Me with my no kids, don't need no tax deduction gets $1300, you with going on 3? and could use some diaper money gets you guessed it $1300. Where is spread the wealth? I seem to truly make out in this deal. Maybe Barack just hates kids, I'll just call it child racism because I can. Now under the McCain plan I get nothing, perfectly fine with me, and you get something like $300 in savings. I think looking at this you should obviously see McCain has a better idea about who really needs the tax break. Sorry $300 doesn't sound like a lot but it's pobably more realistic considering our countries growing debt. So I think we can learn 3 things from this; Obama not a socialist(contrary to fox news), Obama a child racist(fact see above), Obama trying to buy an election with a tax plan(you've seen the commercials).
  
  
  Sorry I'm not done yet. You also mentioned "I'm not saying he can do it
  alone" This was part of my "figure head" comment that started this. Being President to me means being able to surround yourself with some of the brightest and most experienced people in the world to help advise you in making executive decisions. Doesn't it scare you of the talk of Oprah being an ambassador, doesn't it scare you all the questionable people the networks are pulling out of his past, most importantly doesn't it scare you that he probably owes a few people favors from his Chicago days. I can see it now Blagovich and his single digit approval rating gets a cabinet position (secretary of don't know shit). Why not? I've seen crazier things. PARTY ON!!!!!!!!!!!
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  Probstisms

  8 months ago

  Big D, I have to admit that I am thoroughly enjoying this banter we
  have going here. The whole "child racist" thing is over the top, and
  I know you did it for theatrical effect so I'll leave that alone.
  Actually, under Obama's plan, my family will see $1,800 in tax savings
  plus potentially more with retirement savings so I guess Obama does
  have a soft spot in his heart for children. For me though, the tax
  plan is way down the list for things that make me excited to vote for
  Barack. He's incredibly intelligent, he's a great thinker, he's a
  great motivator, he's inspirational, he's a great leader, he works
  hard, he's a great decision maker, he is strong, he surrounds himself
  with insanely smart people. I could go on and on. All of these
  qualities are what I would expect out of someone I could respect as a
  leader. These are the qualities I expect of the people for which I
  work. Leadership is not something that comes with a title. It is
  something that must be earned, and in my view, Obama has more than
  earned my respect as a great leader.
  
  Regarding your comments about potential advisors, we both know Oprah
  and Blago will be no where near to the top of Obama's advisor lists.
  We probably see as much news from Springfield here as you do, and I
  also believe Blago is an incredibly poor executive, but I also can see
  that the leaders in the Illinois legislature are incredibly poor
  legislators. Illinois is going through a perfect storm of
  incompetence in all levels of government, and the voters will have to
  make some tough decisions to get the change that is needed to stop the
  nonsense.
  
  Obama/Biden 2008
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  BigD

  8 months ago

  Timmy, does your wife get jealous when you talk about another man this way. Seriously though, I also have some of the same concerns about McCain as you. I also see some of the good qualities in Barack you mentioned above. And you would have to be an idiot to think this nation is on the right road at this point in time. My #1 concern right now is my slick willy radar is going off and its loud, keeps me up at night, kinda like crappy Rush songs. Obama may have you fooled but not I. One year from now we'll get together and see who was right, the loser buys dinner.
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  Donnell

  8 months ago

  Big D - You say, "Being President to me means being able to surround yourself with some of the brightest and most experienced people in the world to help advise you in making executive decisions." I have one word for you: PALIN. Strike one. Secondly - $1300 vs. $300? So, you want me to vote for McCain and take home less, so you can take home even less than me? That's some definite McCain logic right there. Strike 2. You also say, "Because Obamaland can never exist, there just isn't the money to fulfill the promises of this amusement park." Oddly enough, Obamaland will *only* cost us an additional $3.6 trillion (not including spending or program cuts) over the next decade... wait for it... McCainland will cost us an additional $5 trillion. So while both amusement parks spend more than they take in ticket sales before getting rid of a few rides, if you want to play the carnival game of "lesser of two evils" then you will be visiting Obamaland every time. Strike 3. You're out.
  
  Obama/Biden '08
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  BigD

  8 months ago

  I didn't know Donnell was such a baseball fan. Your even better at throwing around theoretical numbers. No matter what amusement park our destination is please keep in mind a democratic majority in the congress is who will have the say if it's 5 or 3.6 trillion or hopefully much less. Yes Palin is a stretch(give it a foul ball strike 1). Whoever ends up winning this election I hope gains the respect of the nation and the world. The last 12 years or so our presidents (in my mind) have really been considered a joke, especially with the press trying to tear them apart. This has to stop no matter who becomes president.
  
  As far as my vote today I took a lesson from the game of golf. Today the first par 5 I had 260 yards to the green with a creek in front of the green and a pond to the right. I was dreaming of hitting it on the green and sinking a putt for eagle. Sure enough I hit it solid missed the green only by two feet and the ball kicked straight right into the water. So I ended up with a bogey 6. I play golf for fun so why not dream a little. If I was playing for money you can be sure I would have played it safe, hit it short and took a shot at birdie or a sure par. I'm leaving dream chasing for the golf course. So I took the safe bet.
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